Perfomatix Reviews

Penetration test that found things our previous vendor had missed for two consecutive years

Siobhan Gallagher / Chief Technology Officer - Northumbria FinTech Ltd

Verified
May 26, 2026

Project summary: Our internal product thinking was strong but our execution capability in this specific technology domain was limited. We needed depth, not generalism.

The thing that retrospectively seems most significant is how little drama there was. Complex technology projects tend to accumulate incidents, escalations, and tense conversations. This one did not. Problems were surfaced before they became incidents. Scope changes were handled with process rather than conflict. Risks were managed rather than avoided. That level of maturity is rare in my experience and it made the delivery feel almost effortless from our side, which I know it was not from theirs.

PROS

Senior-level engineering presence throughout the entire project, not just during the pitch, honest and commercially fair handling of scope changes, codebase that our internal team praised on review

CONS

The quality of documentation they produce means our team needed to set aside dedicated review time to do it justice — a minor scheduling point rather than a genuine criticism

5.0

Overall

5.0

Quality

5.0

Schedule

5.0

Cost

4.5

Communication

Project TypeCybersecurity

IndustryConstruction

Project Cost$150,000 to $499,999

DurationOct 2025 – Feb 2026

Questions & Answers

Please describe your company, your role, and the industry you operate in.

I lead technology at Northumbria FinTech Ltd, a growth-stage Construction business based in Edinburgh, UK. As Chief Technology Officer my remit spans product engineering, platform operations, and strategic vendor partnerships. We had reached an inflection point where our internal capacity was not sufficient to execute our roadmap at the pace our market required.

What specific problem or business challenge led you to hire this company?

Regulatory requirements in our Construction segment had changed and the compliance timeline was set by our regulator, not by us. The Cybersecurity changes required were significant enough to justify engaging a specialist partner rather than diverting our internal team from the product roadmap.

What services did the company provide for your project?

Primarily Cybersecurity, with adjacent work in solution architecture and quality assurance. They were responsible for the full build from requirements through to go-live, including integration with four existing systems in our technology landscape. The breadth they covered without requiring additional vendors was commercially and logistically valuable.

Why did you choose this company over other providers you considered?

The quality of the questions they asked during the briefing process was the first indicator. Vendors who ask precise questions in the sales phase tend to apply the same rigour during delivery. That hypothesis proved accurate. The technical proposal was substantive, the team structure was senior throughout, and the pricing was transparent.

How clearly did the company understand your requirements and business goals?

Thoroughly and precisely. The requirements document they produced was detailed enough that our QA team used it directly to write acceptance criteria. Every user story had a defined business objective attached. Nothing was left to interpretation. That discipline in the requirements phase paid dividends throughout development and testing.

How was your overall experience with their communication and project management?

Outstanding. The discipline around asynchronous communication was particularly effective given the time zones involved between Edinburgh, UK and the delivery team. Written updates were specific and consistent, response times were same-day for anything that required a decision, and nothing fell through the cracks across a six-month engagement.

Did the company deliver the project on time and within your expected budget?

Yes to both. There was a single sprint where a dependency on a third-party API introduced a one-week delay. The team identified it three weeks in advance, presented two mitigation options, and we agreed on an approach that recovered the schedule within the same sprint cycle. That level of foresight is what separates good project management from reactive problem management.

What tangible results or business impact have you seen since the project was completed?

The ROI case we presented to our board was conservative by design. Current performance against the financial model suggests we will hit the projected payback point in under twelve months against an eighteen-month target. The operational efficiency gains in particular have exceeded the model, in part because the quality of the data the new platform generates supports decisions that the previous system could not.

What did you like most about working with this company?

Their instinct for keeping the business objective visible throughout technical decision-making. I have worked with technically excellent teams who lose the strategic thread as complexity increases. This team maintained a clear connection between every architectural choice and the outcome we had agreed to achieve. That orientation made the trade-off conversations significantly easier.

Would you recommend this company to others, and would you work with them again?

Absolutely. With a specific note that the value starts in the discovery phase — clients who approach that process with seriousness will get the most from the engagement. We invested appropriately at the front end and the returns are evident in what was delivered.

A technology investment that delivered returns ahead of the business case we approved

Elliot Thorne / Managing Director, Tech - Redwood Capital Advisors

Verified
Apr 17, 2026

Project summary: Several years of incremental development had left us with a platform that was technically functional but strategically limiting. A structured rebuild was the agreed path forward.

The integration layer was the part of the project I was most concerned about going in. Our system landscape is complex, several of the upstream APIs we relied on were poorly documented, and two third-party vendors had a history of unpredictable response times on integration questions. This team managed all of that. They documented what the upstream vendors could not, built resilience into the integration architecture where the upstream behaviour was unreliable, and delivered a solution that works as specified in production. I could not have asked for more.

PROS

Architectural decisions designed for longevity rather than just the current brief, thorough automated test coverage, post-launch stability that validated every technical choice made during discovery

CONS

We underestimated the input required from our subject matter experts during the requirements phase. The team flagged this early but our resource planning did not fully reflect it — our responsibility, not theirs

4.5

Overall

4.0

Quality

4.5

Schedule

4.5

Cost

4.5

Communication

Project TypePOS System Development

IndustryFashion & Apparel

Project Cost$10,000 to $49,999

DurationAug 2025 – Jan 2026

Questions & Answers

Please describe your company, your role, and the industry you operate in.

Redwood Capital Advisors is an established Fashion & Apparel organisation headquartered in San Francisco, USA. My role as Managing Director, Tech covers both strategic planning and operational technology delivery. We maintain high standards for our vendors because our clients hold us to high standards — a bar we expect our partners to meet.

What specific problem or business challenge led you to hire this company?

Our platform had been maintained by a previous vendor for three years and the accumulated technical debt had reached a point where delivery velocity had dropped to a fraction of what it should have been. We needed fresh engineering expertise and a structured plan to address the underlying issues.

What services did the company provide for your project?

End-to-end POS System Development delivery with particular depth in the integration and data migration components, which were the highest-risk elements of the programme. They supplemented this with a dedicated QA resource throughout development and a documented runbook for our operations team at handover.

Why did you choose this company over other providers you considered?

A trusted peer in the Fashion & Apparel sector had used them for a comparable POS System Development engagement and their recommendation was unequivocal. Our own due diligence confirmed the pattern they described. The combination of domain knowledge, POS System Development depth, and demonstrated delivery discipline was the deciding factor.

How clearly did the company understand your requirements and business goals?

Better than we managed ourselves going in. The workshops they facilitated surfaced assumptions we had not examined and exposed three requirements that were in direct conflict with each other. Resolving those before development began saved us what would certainly have been significant rework later in the project.

How was your overall experience with their communication and project management?

The project management framework was the most structured I have experienced with an external vendor. Sprint planning was tight, acceptance criteria were specific, retrospectives were honest and acted on. The project manager treated the shared backlog as a live document and the risk register as an operational tool rather than a compliance artefact. I never had to ask for a status update.

Did the company deliver the project on time and within your expected budget?

On time and within the approved budget. The estimation accuracy was notable — they had broken the work down in sufficient detail during discovery that their forecast proved reliable throughout, rather than being a number that shifted with every change in scope. We received one change request and it was for scope we had introduced ourselves.

What tangible results or business impact have you seen since the project was completed?

The most direct measure is the performance of the system in production. In the five months since go-live we have had zero P1 incidents, our page performance scores have improved across every Core Web Vitals metric, and two enterprise clients who had cited our previous platform limitations during contract negotiations have since renewed without that objection arising.

What did you like most about working with this company?

The willingness to be direct. When our requirements were unclear they said so. When our priorities were contradictory they explained why. When a technical approach we had assumed was the right one turned out to have significant downsides, they told us before we had committed to it. That kind of intellectual honesty is what I look for in a long-term technology partner.

Would you recommend this company to others, and would you work with them again?

Unreservedly. We are in active scoping conversations for a second engagement and I expect this to develop into a multi-year partnership. For any organisation in the Fashion & Apparel sector looking for POS System Development expertise combined with genuine delivery discipline, I would put this team at the top of the evaluation list.

A studio team who played the game obsessively and built it accordingly

Radosław Kowalczyk / Head of Development - Wisła Software Sp zoo

Verified
Apr 07, 2026

Project summary: Multi-touch attribution across our media mix had become the most-requested capability from every client in our portfolio. We could not deliver it without rebuilding our data layer.

The thing that retrospectively seems most significant is how little drama there was. Complex technology projects tend to accumulate incidents, escalations, and tense conversations. This one did not. Problems were surfaced before they became incidents. Scope changes were handled with process rather than conflict. Risks were managed rather than avoided. That level of maturity is rare in my experience and it made the delivery feel almost effortless from our side, which I know it was not from theirs.

PROS

Collaborative culture that made the team feel like a genuine extension of our organisation, strong asynchronous communication across time zones, zero-drama handling of the inevitable mid-project changes

CONS

We underestimated the input required from our subject matter experts during the requirements phase. The team flagged this early but our resource planning did not fully reflect it — our responsibility, not theirs

4.5

Overall

4.0

Quality

4.5

Schedule

4.5

Cost

4.0

Communication

Project TypeGame Development

IndustryAdvertising & Marketing

Project CostLess than $10,000

DurationMay 2025 – Mar 2026

Questions & Answers

Please describe your company, your role, and the industry you operate in.

Wisła Software Sp zoo is an established Advertising & Marketing organisation headquartered in Warsaw, Poland. My role as Head of Development covers both strategic planning and operational technology delivery. We maintain high standards for our vendors because our clients hold us to high standards — a bar we expect our partners to meet.

What specific problem or business challenge led you to hire this company?

A competitive threat had accelerated our roadmap. We had planned a significant Game Development investment for the following year. External pressure moved that timeline forward by six months and required us to find an external partner rather than attempting to build internally in the time available.

What services did the company provide for your project?

The scope covered the full Game Development lifecycle: discovery and requirements definition, solution architecture, iterative development across twelve sprints, integration testing, performance validation, production deployment, and a structured four-week hypercare period. They also provided system documentation and a knowledge transfer programme for our internal team.

Why did you choose this company over other providers you considered?

We had a failed engagement behind us and were more rigorous in our selection process as a result. We asked detailed questions about how they managed scope change, how they handled estimation, and how they communicated problems. The answers were specific, evidenced, and consistent across the team members we spoke to. That gave us confidence that the process was real rather than rehearsed.

How clearly did the company understand your requirements and business goals?

Thoroughly and precisely. The requirements document they produced was detailed enough that our QA team used it directly to write acceptance criteria. Every user story had a defined business objective attached. Nothing was left to interpretation. That discipline in the requirements phase paid dividends throughout development and testing.

How was your overall experience with their communication and project management?

The project management framework was the most structured I have experienced with an external vendor. Sprint planning was tight, acceptance criteria were specific, retrospectives were honest and acted on. The project manager treated the shared backlog as a live document and the risk register as an operational tool rather than a compliance artefact. I never had to ask for a status update.

Did the company deliver the project on time and within your expected budget?

The project landed on time. The budget was managed within the agreed ceiling, which included one client-driven scope addition that was quoted fairly and handled without affecting the original delivery stream. The discipline around budget transparency throughout meant there was no surprise at invoice stage.

What tangible results or business impact have you seen since the project was completed?

Quantifying the impact precisely is complicated by other variables in our business, but the metrics we can attribute directly to the Game Development work are meaningful: session duration up, conversion rate up, error rate down, and our NPS for the digital touchpoint has improved by eleven points. Our account managers report that the new capability is coming up positively in client conversations.

What did you like most about working with this company?

The willingness to be direct. When our requirements were unclear they said so. When our priorities were contradictory they explained why. When a technical approach we had assumed was the right one turned out to have significant downsides, they told us before we had committed to it. That kind of intellectual honesty is what I look for in a long-term technology partner.

Would you recommend this company to others, and would you work with them again?

Unreservedly. We are in active scoping conversations for a second engagement and I expect this to develop into a multi-year partnership. For any organisation in the Advertising & Marketing sector looking for Game Development expertise combined with genuine delivery discipline, I would put this team at the top of the evaluation list.

Virtual environment that our remote team now uses as their primary collaboration space

Marcus Holloway / SVP of Engineering - Vertex Cloud Dynamics

Verified
Jan 06, 2026

Project summary: Time-to-market for new tariff structures had become a direct competitive disadvantage. Our product configuration layer was the bottleneck and it needed to be modernised as a priority.

The thing that retrospectively seems most significant is how little drama there was. Complex technology projects tend to accumulate incidents, escalations, and tense conversations. This one did not. Problems were surfaced before they became incidents. Scope changes were handled with process rather than conflict. Risks were managed rather than avoided. That level of maturity is rare in my experience and it made the delivery feel almost effortless from our side, which I know it was not from theirs.

PROS

Senior-level engineering presence throughout the entire project, not just during the pitch, honest and commercially fair handling of scope changes, codebase that our internal team praised on review

CONS

We underestimated the input required from our subject matter experts during the requirements phase. The team flagged this early but our resource planning did not fully reflect it — our responsibility, not theirs

5.0

Overall

4.5

Quality

5.0

Schedule

5.0

Cost

4.5

Communication

Project TypeAR/VR Development

IndustryTelecommunications

Project Cost$50,000 to $149,999

DurationJun 2025 – Nov 2025

Questions & Answers

Please describe your company, your role, and the industry you operate in.

I lead technology at Vertex Cloud Dynamics, a growth-stage Telecommunications business based in Austin, USA. As SVP of Engineering my remit spans product engineering, platform operations, and strategic vendor partnerships. We had reached an inflection point where our internal capacity was not sufficient to execute our roadmap at the pace our market required.

What specific problem or business challenge led you to hire this company?

Regulatory requirements in our Telecommunications segment had changed and the compliance timeline was set by our regulator, not by us. The AR/VR Development changes required were significant enough to justify engaging a specialist partner rather than diverting our internal team from the product roadmap.

What services did the company provide for your project?

Primarily AR/VR Development, with adjacent work in solution architecture and quality assurance. They were responsible for the full build from requirements through to go-live, including integration with four existing systems in our technology landscape. The breadth they covered without requiring additional vendors was commercially and logistically valuable.

Why did you choose this company over other providers you considered?

A trusted peer in the Telecommunications sector had used them for a comparable AR/VR Development engagement and their recommendation was unequivocal. Our own due diligence confirmed the pattern they described. The combination of domain knowledge, AR/VR Development depth, and demonstrated delivery discipline was the deciding factor.

How clearly did the company understand your requirements and business goals?

Better than we managed ourselves going in. The workshops they facilitated surfaced assumptions we had not examined and exposed three requirements that were in direct conflict with each other. Resolving those before development began saved us what would certainly have been significant rework later in the project.

How was your overall experience with their communication and project management?

Professional and efficient. The project manager maintained a clear view of the critical path at all times and communicated changes to it transparently. The one significant scope adjustment we made mid-project was handled through a clean change request process — fairly priced, clearly documented, and absorbed without disrupting the overall timeline.

Did the company deliver the project on time and within your expected budget?

Yes. I had privately built a contingency expectation into my planning given the project complexity and the number of integrations involved. None of that contingency was needed. The delivery landed on the agreed date and the final invoice matched the approved budget to within a fraction of a percent. That outcome is rarer than the industry acknowledges.

What tangible results or business impact have you seen since the project was completed?

We went live four months ago. User adoption exceeded the target we had set by 23 percent in the first month. Support ticket volume has dropped measurably. The features we had deferred because the previous architecture made them prohibitively expensive to build are now in development. The platform they built has opened our roadmap.

What did you like most about working with this company?

The post-launch behaviour. Some vendors consider go-live to be the end of their professional obligation. This team treated it as the transition to a different kind of engagement. The hypercare period was substantive, the documentation was thorough and genuinely useful, and they checked in proactively at the thirty-day and ninety-day marks to review production metrics with us.

Would you recommend this company to others, and would you work with them again?

Unreservedly. We are in active scoping conversations for a second engagement and I expect this to develop into a multi-year partnership. For any organisation in the Telecommunications sector looking for AR/VR Development expertise combined with genuine delivery discipline, I would put this team at the top of the evaluation list.

Smart infrastructure project that paid back the investment in under two quarters

Lars Pfeiffer / VP of Technology - NordTech Logistik GmbH

Verified
Jan 03, 2026

Project summary: Several years of incremental development had left us with a platform that was technically functional but strategically limiting. A structured rebuild was the agreed path forward.

I came into this engagement as a sceptic. We had been through a failed implementation with a previous vendor and I had high standards for what evidence of competence looked like before I would trust a partner with our core systems. This team earned that trust progressively — through the quality of the discovery documentation, the rigour of the technical proposals, the consistency of the sprint deliveries, and ultimately the stability of the production system. I no longer lead with scepticism when recommending them.

PROS

Collaborative culture that made the team feel like a genuine extension of our organisation, strong asynchronous communication across time zones, zero-drama handling of the inevitable mid-project changes

CONS

The engagement was priced at the quality level rather than the budget level. We evaluated the alternatives and concluded that the delta was a reasonable premium for the reduction in delivery risk

4.5

Overall

4.5

Quality

5.0

Schedule

4.5

Cost

4.0

Communication

Project TypeIoT Development

IndustryConstruction

Project CostLess than $10,000

DurationApr 2025 – Dec 2025

Questions & Answers

Please describe your company, your role, and the industry you operate in.

I lead technology at NordTech Logistik GmbH, a growth-stage Construction business based in Hamburg, Germany. As VP of Technology my remit spans product engineering, platform operations, and strategic vendor partnerships. We had reached an inflection point where our internal capacity was not sufficient to execute our roadmap at the pace our market required.

What specific problem or business challenge led you to hire this company?

The immediate problem was that our IoT Development capability had become the bottleneck limiting our ability to grow. Every feature request, every new client requirement, every internal initiative was delayed by a platform that had been extended beyond its original design. We needed a rebuild, not a patch.

What services did the company provide for your project?

The core engagement was IoT Development delivery, though their scope expanded to include technical consultancy during discovery that materially improved our requirements. They also took ownership of the third-party integration workstream that had been a coordination challenge in previous projects, removing that complexity from our internal team entirely.

Why did you choose this company over other providers you considered?

The quality of the questions they asked during the briefing process was the first indicator. Vendors who ask precise questions in the sales phase tend to apply the same rigour during delivery. That hypothesis proved accurate. The technical proposal was substantive, the team structure was senior throughout, and the pricing was transparent.

How clearly did the company understand your requirements and business goals?

Extremely well, in part because they had relevant Construction experience that reduced the context-setting overhead significantly. They understood the domain vocabulary, asked the right questions, and translated business requirements into technical specifications with a fidelity that meant the development phase had very few clarification cycles.

How was your overall experience with their communication and project management?

The project management framework was the most structured I have experienced with an external vendor. Sprint planning was tight, acceptance criteria were specific, retrospectives were honest and acted on. The project manager treated the shared backlog as a live document and the risk register as an operational tool rather than a compliance artefact. I never had to ask for a status update.

Did the company deliver the project on time and within your expected budget?

The project landed on time. The budget was managed within the agreed ceiling, which included one client-driven scope addition that was quoted fairly and handled without affecting the original delivery stream. The discipline around budget transparency throughout meant there was no surprise at invoice stage.

What tangible results or business impact have you seen since the project was completed?

We went live four months ago. User adoption exceeded the target we had set by 23 percent in the first month. Support ticket volume has dropped measurably. The features we had deferred because the previous architecture made them prohibitively expensive to build are now in development. The platform they built has opened our roadmap.

What did you like most about working with this company?

The post-launch behaviour. Some vendors consider go-live to be the end of their professional obligation. This team treated it as the transition to a different kind of engagement. The hypercare period was substantive, the documentation was thorough and genuinely useful, and they checked in proactively at the thirty-day and ninety-day marks to review production metrics with us.

Would you recommend this company to others, and would you work with them again?

Yes. I would add the context that this is not the cheapest option in the market and they are selective about the engagements they take on. If your primary criterion is price, there are alternatives. If you want a technology partner who can be trusted with a complex IoT Development programme in the Construction space and will deliver against a serious brief, this is the team.

Outstanding service and exceptional results

Thomas Müller / Engineering Manager - TechHaus GmbH

Verified
May 25, 2025

Project summary: We required a custom platform that would give us a measurable competitive advantage in our market.

This was the smoothest technology project we have ever run. The team's expertise was evident from the first technical discussion, and their ability to translate complex requirements into elegant solutions is remarkable. They kept us informed at every step, flagged risks early, and delivered a high-quality product that our internal team is proud to maintain. Their ongoing support has been equally impressive.

PROS

Innovative thinking, meticulous attention to detail, reliable delivery, transparent reporting

CONS

Initial onboarding took a couple of extra days, but the team hit full stride very quickly

5.0

Overall

5.0

Quality

5.0

Schedule

5.0

Cost

5.0

Communication

Project TypeIT Managed Services

IndustryMining & Metals

Project Cost$50,000 to $149,999

DurationMay 2025 – Sep 2025

Questions & Answers

Please describe your company, your role, and the industry you operate in.

We are a Engineering Manager-led organisation operating in the Mining & Metals sector. My role involves overseeing strategic technology decisions and vendor partnerships. We have been growing steadily and needed a trusted partner to help us scale our digital capabilities.

What specific problem or business challenge led you to hire this company?

Our primary challenge was modernising our Mining & Metals operations through IT Managed Services. Legacy systems were limiting our agility and we needed a solution that could scale with our growth ambitions and integrate with our existing infrastructure.

What services did the company provide for your project?

They delivered a comprehensive IT Managed Services engagement covering requirements analysis, solution architecture, full-cycle development, QA testing, deployment, and post-launch support. The scope was well-defined and executed without scope creep.

Why did you choose this company over other providers you considered?

Their demonstrated expertise in IT Managed Services and a strong portfolio of Mining & Metals projects set them apart during our evaluation. The discovery call gave us confidence they truly understood our domain, not just the technology.

How clearly did the company understand your requirements and business goals?

Exceptionally well. They ran a structured discovery process, asked insightful questions, and produced a detailed requirements document that captured nuances we hadn't even articulated ourselves. That foundation made the entire project smoother.

How was your overall experience with their communication and project management?

Outstanding. We had a dedicated project manager, weekly status calls, a shared project board, and same-day responses to queries. There were no surprises — risks were flagged early and resolved before they became issues.

Did the company deliver the project on time and within your expected budget?

Yes, the project was delivered on the agreed date and within budget. Their estimates were realistic and they managed scope carefully, flagging any potential changes before they impacted the timeline or cost.

What tangible results or business impact have you seen since the project was completed?

Significant. Since go-live we have seen measurable improvements in operational efficiency, customer satisfaction scores have risen, and the solution has already paid back a substantial portion of the investment. The team built something we are genuinely proud of.

What did you like most about working with this company?

Their genuine investment in our success. They didn't just execute a spec — they brought ideas, challenged assumptions, and cared about the outcome as much as we did. The quality of the codebase and documentation also stood out.

Would you recommend this company to others, and would you work with them again?

Absolutely and without hesitation. We have already referred two colleagues, and we are actively scoping the next phase of work with them. They are our go-to partner for IT Managed Services projects going forward.

Professional team that delivers excellence every time

Robert Martinez / Operations Manager - Solutions Group

Verified
Oct 18, 2023

Project summary: Our company needed a reliable technology partner to deliver a complex project within a tight timeline.

From day one, the team felt like an extension of our own organisation. They immersed themselves in our domain, challenged us to think bigger, and delivered a solution that is both technically sound and strategically valuable. The project came in on time and within budget, which is rare for an engagement of this complexity. We are delighted with the outcome and look forward to a long-term partnership.

PROS

Excellent communication, high-quality deliverables, on-time delivery, proactive problem-solving

CONS

None — every aspect of the engagement exceeded our expectations

5.0

Overall

5.0

Quality

5.0

Schedule

5.0

Cost

5.0

Communication

Project TypeCMS Development

IndustryLogistics & Supply Chain

Project Cost$500,000+

DurationOct 2024 – May 2025

Questions & Answers

Please describe your company, your role, and the industry you operate in.

We are a Operations Manager-led organisation operating in the Logistics & Supply Chain sector. My role involves overseeing strategic technology decisions and vendor partnerships. We have been growing steadily and needed a trusted partner to help us scale our digital capabilities.

What specific problem or business challenge led you to hire this company?

Our primary challenge was modernising our Logistics & Supply Chain operations through CMS Development. Legacy systems were limiting our agility and we needed a solution that could scale with our growth ambitions and integrate with our existing infrastructure.

What services did the company provide for your project?

They delivered a comprehensive CMS Development engagement covering requirements analysis, solution architecture, full-cycle development, QA testing, deployment, and post-launch support. The scope was well-defined and executed without scope creep.

Why did you choose this company over other providers you considered?

Their demonstrated expertise in CMS Development and a strong portfolio of Logistics & Supply Chain projects set them apart during our evaluation. The discovery call gave us confidence they truly understood our domain, not just the technology.